Hat Vernon eine Tochter??

[gast-20081013]

Wenn mich nicht alles täuscht, werden durch eine Adoption sämtliche Erbansprüche an die leibliche Familie nichtig.

ups.. das hab ich ja gar nicht gesehen.. (muss auch gestehen, dass ich den Artikel nicht ganz gelesen habe ) ich dachte halt, sie wäre bei der Mutter aufgewachsen.. aber stimmt.. Adoption ist nochmal ein ganz anderes Thema.. da erlöschen wirklich die bisherigen Verwandtschaftsverhältnisse.

[jack77]

Inwiefern könnte das nach hinten losgehen?

1. Sie müsste ja erstmal beweisen können, dass Vernon ihr Vater ist.
2. Ich kenn mich da nicht wirklich gut aus - gibts im Erbrecht eine Verjährungsfrist, in der man Ansprüche geltend machen müsste, andernfalls verfallen sie?

[MARIE]

Woman claims kinship to Elvis; says she's daughter of Vernon Presley

By Lawrence Buser (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Thursday, September 25, 2008

A 46-year-old woman who claims to be the half-sister of Elvis Presley is asking a court to reopen the estate of the rock-and-roll legend's father, Vernon Presley, and to be admitted as an heir.

According to the petition filed in Shelby County Probate Court, Eliza Alice Presley said her mother gave her up for adoption at birth and that after a lifetime search she learned this summer through DNA testing that Vernon Presley was her father.


The divorced mother of four then changed her name from Alice Elizabeth Tiffin.

"I am 99.99 percent sure that Eliza Presley and Elvis Aaron Presley are half siblings and that she is not related to Elvis Presley's mother's relatives and that can only mean that they share a father," said Donald Yates, head of DNA Consulting in Scottsdale, Ariz., who said he has worked on the case for five years.

"There was no DNA from Vernon. The relationship has to be inferred from the DNA from other family members. We're talking about samples from an extended family group."

He said that included DNA from Elvis, but he would not elaborate on where or how that was obtained.

The attorney who handled Vernon Presley's estate was not available for comment and Kevin Kern, spokesman for Graceland, is traveling out of the country.

Vernon Presley died June 26, 1979, at age 63. Elvis died in 1977.

Probate Court Clerk Chris Thomas said Wednesday a hearing on the Texas woman's petition is set for next month.

"I've never had one where someone comes in after the estate's been closed almost 25 years," he said. "Most of the people involved are dead."

He said Vernon Presley's estate distributed a total of about $200,000 to his heirs and has been closed since 1985.

Vernon Presley was the executor of the Elvis estate, the bulk of which went to his only daughter, Lisa Marie.

DNA expert Yates said Eliza Presley's mother, Florence Juanita Sharp, lived across the street from Graceland as a teenager, but that little is know about how she might have met Vernon Presley.

He said Sharp moved to Pasadena, Texas, where Eliza was born Jan. 23, 1962, and placed for adoption.

Despite the petition seeking to reopen Vernon Presley's estate and be admitted as an heir, Eliza Presley's motive is not money, Yates said.

"Her main goal is to be recognized as Vernon Presley's daughter and Elvis Presley's half sister," he said. "She's spent her entire lifetime searching for her true identity."

[gast-20081013]

Also das mit der Namensänderung finde ich ja schon ein bisschen daneben.. und wie es aussieht, versucht sie doch einen Teil des Erbes von Vernon zu erhalten.. scheinbar ist die Rechtlage nach einer Adoption in den USA doch eine andere als bei uns
Ich kann es voll und ganz verstehen, dass jemand über seine Herkunft Bescheid wissen möchte und diese Herkunft dann auch auf dem Papier geregelt haben will.. ich kann es auch nachvollziehen, dass man einen (mgl. nach amerik. Recht) bestehenden Anspruch auf ein Erbe geltend macht - denn lässt man die Adoption (bzw. deren Folgen nach dt. Recht) mal außer Betracht, wäre sie eben Vernons engste lebende Verwandte zu dessen Todeszeitpunkt gewesen.. aber mit der KOMPLETTEN Namensänderung lässt sie eben noch einen ganz anderen Verdacht aufkommen.. mal sehen, wann sie ein Buch schreibt.. oder gibt's das schon?!?

[jack77]

Klingt dennoch alles etwas komisch für mich...

[Vany]

Klingt dennoch alles etwas komisch für mich...

Seh ich auch so...

"There was no DNA from Vernon. The relationship has to be inferred from the DNA from other family members. We're talking about samples from an extended family group."

Mich würde wirklich interessieren, welches Familienmitglied da bitteschön seine DNA zum Abgleich "freigegeben" hat

[gast-20081013]

Mich würde wirklich interessieren, welches Familienmitglied da bitteschön seine DNA zum Abgleich "freigegeben" hat

Man muss es von beiden Seiten sehen.. auch den Rest der Familie könnte es doch interessieren, ob es da wirklich eine Halbschwester von Elvis gibt.. also MICH würde es schon interessieren, wenn in meiner Familie auf einmal eine weitere "Tante" auftauchen würde Muss ja nicht nur schlecht sein.. Ausnahme: sie würde ihren kompletten Namen ändern und dadurch schon sehr komisch auf mich wirken.

[Vany]

Man muss es von beiden Seiten sehen.. auch den Rest der Familie könnte es doch interessieren, ob es da wirklich eine Halbschwester von Elvis gibt.. also MICH würde es schon interessieren, wenn in meiner Familie auf einmal eine weitere "Tante" auftauchen würde Muss ja nicht nur schlecht sein..

Stimmt, natürlich könnte es den Rest der Familie auch interessieren...würde mir vermutlich auch so gehen. Aber an der Stelle der Presleys wäre ich skeptisch und vorallem vorsichtig. Gerade wegen den Motiven...

[gast-20110615]

ich will nicht wissen was die Presleys schon alles verklagt haben! Das muss sehr nervig sein, sich mit irgendwelchen Psychos rumzuschlagen, die denken sie wären das Kind vom King oder Vernon...

[gast-20100118]

Ja komisch. Von den Cousins und Onkels hört man diesbezüglich nichts.

[MARIE]

Texan Woman Claims She's Elvis' Lost Sister
(Soundbuzz, Friday October 3, 11:00 AM)

Elvis Presley's estate has been hit with a new bombshell - a 46-year-old Texan woman insists she's the late rocker's sister. Eliza Alice Presley claims to have the DNA tests that prove she's Vernon Presley's secret lovechild. Presley states she was raised by a Texan couple after her birth mother, Florence Juanita Sharp, gave her up for adoption.

The divorced mother-of-four claims Elvis' father Vernon is her father. Her representative, Donald Yates, reveals DNA tests carried out in Arizona match the genetic make-up of Elvis' cousin Donna. He tells America's Globe, "I'm 99.99 per cent sure that Eliza Presley and Elvis Aaron Presley are half siblings."

As well as the scientific proof, Yates reveals his client has "sworn testimony from family members relating to who her biological father is." Eliza Alice Presley has filed papers in Memphis, Tennessee, claiming she's entitled to be "recognised as his daughter and allowed to inherit her statutory share of his estate". (soundbuzz:wenn)

[MARIE]

Hier spricht ihr mutter

By Lawrence Buser (Contact), Memphis Commercial Appeal
Tuesday, October 7, 2008

Former Whitehaven resident Florence Clark says she spent some time at Graceland as a teen, but that her daughter most definitely was not fathered by Vernon Presley.

Her daughter, Alice Elizabeth Tiffin, now 46, filed a petition in Memphis two weeks ago claiming to have DNA proof that she is Vernon's daughter -- and Elvis' half-sister -- and seeking to be named an heir.

She recently changed her name to Eliza A. Presley.


Her mother, however, said her daughter, who she put up for adoption at birth, also used to claim Elvis was her father and that anyone with common sense would know both claims are bogus.

"There is no Presley connection," said Clark, 67, who lives in Oregon. "I would be rich if there was a Presley connection. Do you think I would walk away from that? Would any girl walk away from that if they had a child by Vernon or Elvis?"

Vernon Presley died in 1979 at age 63. Elvis died in 1977 at age 42.

In her Probate Court petition, Eliza Presley, who was born in 1962 in Texas, says she has DNA testing results that prove she is the daughter of Vernon Presley.

She has been unavailable for comment, but Donald Yates, head of DNA Consulting in Scottsdale, Ariz., said he has worked on the case for the past five years and that he is "99.99 percent sure" that Eliza and Elvis are half-siblings and that Vernon is their father.

He said there was no DNA available from Vernon, but that samples from other Presley family members, including Elvis, were tested. Yates would not say how DNA from Elvis was obtained.

According to her court petition, the discovery is the result of a lifelong search to learn the identity of her father.

Not so, says her mother.

Florence Clark said her daughter has known since age 19 that her father was another Memphis man -- she moved to Texas when she learned she was pregnant -- and that her daughter has spent time with him in the past.

Clark said that as a teen she often hung out at the gates of Graceland and eventually met Elvis and joined his entourage on trips to the movies, to the fairgrounds and to a skating rink.

She said she also met Vernon on a few occasions, but that there was no romantic involvement with him or with Elvis, who she said used to call her "Brown Eyes."

"That man never touched me, not once, and I'll take any test in the world to prove it," said Clark, who is divorced and has three other grown children.

"I have no motive for anything. I just know what the truth is. When she found out I knew Elvis, she started trying to put Elvis as her father. This is the first time I've heard about Vernon."

A hearing is set for Wednesday in Probate Court.

http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...ster-of-elvis/

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[Elvis1935]

Hat Elvis Presley eine unbekannte Halbschwester?

Habe das gerade im Internet gefunden, hoffe es hat noch kein anderer gepostet:
Hat Elvis Presley eine unbekannte Halbschwester?

Der King of Rock'n'Roll, Elvis Presley, soll eine Halbschwester haben.




Eine 46-jährige Frau aus Texas namens Eliza Alice Tiffin behauptet, sie könne durch einen DNA-Test beweisen, dass sie Vernon Presleys Tochter und somit Elvis' Halbschwester sei. Ihre Mutter Florence Juanita Sharp, die gegenüber Elvis' Graceland-Villa gewohnt hat, habe sie 1962 nach der Geburt zur Adoption freigegeben. Jetzt fordert Tiffin vor Gericht die Anerkennung der Verwandtschaft. Finanzielle Forde**r*ungen habe sie keine. Elvis' Nachlass ist also nicht in *Gefahr.

[gast-20081013]

Bei den News in englischer Sprache wurde das Thema schon angesprochen.. wobei die Mutter dieser "angeblichen Halbschwester" wohl jegliche mögliche Vaterschaft ausgeschlossen hat.. sieht so aus als hätte die Frau die hier unbedingt mit Elvis verwandt sein möchte, wohl leicht einen an der Klatsche

[Vany]

Tja, wenn's mit dem Sohn nicht klappt, dann versucht man's eben mal mit dem Vater