´Rock ´n´ Roll´

[DelWebb]

neue cd, direkte übernahme des 1972 UK albums SF8233 mit der seltenen Mystery Train version die nur auf dieser UK ausgabe erschien und später dann auf der billig cd Elvis Presley - The Legendary', The Entertainers CD 254




nein, keine SONY/BMG VÖ und keine CD-R

[andy_m]

Schöne CD mein Freund.
Diese LP hatte Ich in den 70s als RCA Italien Pressung mit beigem Label und neuem RCA Block Logo.

[Herbi]

...tolle CD Del !!

...habe in meiner sammlung nachgeschaut und die Elvis Presley - The Legendary', The Entertainers CD 254 gefunden !!






MYSTERY TRAIN MYSTERY

Background:
The complete song, including the last guitar note played, before the fade-out is over, was found on a cheap European CD release, 'Elvis Presley - The Legendary', The Entertainers CD 254 (reported by Sven Adamski). Several variations exist (1987-1990, France Italy etc.)
Before that it was used on the UK LP's "Rock 'n' Roll", RCA 1972 and HMV 1956 (reported by Kevan Budd). Recently it was traced back to US and the 1955 RCA 78 RPM release (reported by Ernest Boyes) and now it becomes interesting.

MYSTERY TRAIN MYSTERY

Background:
The complete song, including the last guitar note played, before the fade-out is over, was found on a cheap European CD release, 'Elvis Presley - The Legendary', The Entertainers CD 254 (reported by Sven Adamski). Several variations exist (1987-1990, France Italy etc.)
Before that it was used on the UK LP's "Rock 'n' Roll", RCA 1972 and HMV 1956 (reported by Kevan Budd). Recently it was traced back to US and the 1955 RCA 78 RPM release (reported by Ernest Boyes) and now it becomes interesting.

Summary of versions:
1. Unprocessed master with very good dynamic range (50's Box, earliest fade).
2. The processed Sun 45/78 master (Sun 45/78 & When All Was Kool, ends suddenly during fade)
3. The processed RCA version (1955 single, complete with last note before fade is over)

Problem:
In late 1955 it appears RCA hadn't received "Sun Box #16" and it has been confirmed that this is the tape pictured in Sunrise ("Bill: Give me 'hot' level..."). If this is the case, then it can be assumed that RCA had to use Sun Box #1 in 1955 and that Box #1 had a version with the complete ending. This might also explain why the long version was sent to HMV, with UK being one of the first export markets (somebody ought to check Canadian and German releases for the same reason).

RCA did some processing of their own on the "long version". By comparing the dynamic range of the long RCA version to the original Sun version it may appear as if that the original Sun compression was on the 1955 RCA version as well. Drop of vocal amplitude due to compression appears to occur at the same points and of the same amount (L/R comparisons). Still, RCA probably was able to produce the same amount of compression - or my method of comparing may not be valid enough.

The task of "Bill" (Bill Putnam) was to produce acetate masters, probably not a tape. Yet, a source that corresponds to a "Bill tape" is available on 'When All Was Kool'. This version is the processed Sun master with the cut ending, likely to have been derived from Box #16.

Possible scenario:

-Box #1 ought to have been the original session tape (with ending intact)
-Box #16 could be a copy of the unprocessed master with dynamics, ending possibly cut due to so early fade.
-Unknown tape: The processed Sun master with ending cut - this shouldn't exist, but it does. Bill might have made a tape and sent to Sam that we don't know about.

This scenario will change as we learn more. Some things still don't make sense, such as, why RCA would choose to use Box#16 for their own master copies in 1956 if this had the ending cut, was just as dry as and a generation down compared to Box#1? In reality things don't always make sense on the other hand.

[DelWebb]

aha, pressung für die schweiz!

[Herbi]

aha, pressung für die schweiz!

...yes !!

[DelWebb]

...yes !!

war kein scherz

[Herbi]

war kein scherz

...ich weiss Del !!

[King77]

hallo

Mir erschließt sich der Sinn dieser schon 1972 überflüssigen LP im Jahre 2007 auf CD nicht. Heute werden doch die Songs von 54-56 auf Grund der Rechte fast täglich auf den Markt geworfen.

[andy_m]

...ich weiss Del !!

Genau so wars mit der Mystery Train Version
War eine schöne Research Geschichte mit dem Haudegen Kevan.
Musste etwas suchen bis Ich die Entertainer CD hatte