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  • Graves_bei_Nacht
    Gehört zum Inventar

    • 04.11.2014
    • 3877

    #151
    Zitat von RADER
    auf der Rückseite des Bandes noch etwas anderes war....
    Wohl eher legitime Aufnahmen auf anderen Spuren und zudem rückwärts laufend.

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    • Graves_bei_Nacht
      Gehört zum Inventar

      • 04.11.2014
      • 3877

      #152
      Zitat von RADER
      Ich schreibe in Kürze einen großen Artikel drüber. Daher nur vorab - der Chef von Bear Family, Richard Weize,...
      Eine alte Geschichte.... und kostet die daran Interessierten doch nur wieder Geld (wie üblich)!

      Warum nicht gleich?

      Zitat von Bill Holland
      Erasing Elvis, Pitching Out Presley

      Elvis may have been the king, but for RCA bean counters in the days before BMG took over the
      company, he was just a name on pesky tape reels taking up valuable space.

      "In the '70s, they just threw out some Elvis material." said a source. "A storage issue, apparently. They
      were multitrack session reels from his '60s movies. Those ended up on a (counterfeit) bootleg."

      Presley's first sessions in Los Angeles, cut in 1957, also went missing, but this time, enterprising BMG
      reissue execs, 30 years later, tracked down copies by contacting Bones Howe, one of the recording
      engineers who taped the sessions at Radio Recorders along with Thorne Nogar. Luckily for the label,
      they'd stored them away in the studio library.

      And even more luckily, Howe saved them after finding them in the trash after a "studio cleanup" three
      years later.
      "I walked in the back door of the studio one day," Howe recalled. "It was in 1960. The dumpster was
      filled with tapes. I went, 'my God, I worked on a lot of these things.'

      "I asked the supervisor, and he said that the studio had cleaned out the library, and they had called the
      record companies but there was no response. So he said, 'go ahead, take 'em before the dumpster truck
      pulls up.'

      "I went through all these tapes and got all the things I'd recorded, and digging through them, I found the
      Elvis reels, and sealed them all up in boxes and stored them in my garage. They were with me through
      the '80s.

      Even better, in addition to several mono reels, Howe had found tapes of the entire session cut on a twotrack
      stereo machine that served as a backup tape recorder rolling at the sessions. (There were thought
      to be no pre-Army, Elvis stereo recordings).

      "Now, RCA had the mono EQ'd masters, but even back in the late '60s, things at the vault had gotten
      way out of control, tapes piled everywhere, so they couldn't really find anything. After Elvis died, all
      these compilations started coming out," Howe explained.

      "Finally in the mid'80s, RCA called and said 'we hear you've got these tapes," and I said, 'yes, I do.' In the
      end we negotiated a price and I sold the tapes back to RCA. The (audio tapes for) the 1968 TV
      'Comeback Special' too."

      Perhaps the most amazing Found Elvis Tapes story is how a record company boss in Germany discovered
      the long-missing tapes of Prelsey's first 1956 RCA recording session in Nashville. For decades, they were
      thought to no longer exist.

      A few years back, Bear Family Records in Hambergen, Germany licensed tons of RCA Hank Snow
      material from BMG for one of its admirable multi-volume, multi-CD sets for the European market.

      As Bear Family owner Richard Weize and his engineer sat in the studio listening to one of the many
      Snow tapes, they could hear something "annoying" running backwards. When they flipped the reel
      over, they were astounded. They'd stumbled upon a previously-unknown alternate take of the 1956
      RCA Elvis hit, "I Want You, I Need You, I Love You."

      Weize immedately called the well-known Elvis reissue expert Ernst Jorgensen, who confirmed Weise's
      guess. Further, the alternate take was not known to exist. Jorgensen immediately called BMG in New
      York, and ordered from the vaults all Nashville tapes bearing subsequent matrix numbers recorded soon
      after the Presley session.

      After a thorough search, he found five more lost Presley items from the sessions--unreleased, alternatetake
      performances sessions of "I Was the One," "I've Got a Woman" and "I'm Counting On You," as well
      as two alternate takes of "Heartbreak Hotel," his first 1956 breakthrough single.

      Some of the discoveries were included in the recent BMG "Elvis '56" release; the others will appear in a
      new four-CD "Platinum--A Life in Music" box set that includes recently unearthed Presley material--
      sessions, TV shows, rehearsals and even a pre-Sun Records acetate--to be released June 17 (Billboard,
      May 24).


      In a case still making headlines, a '70's-era directive of now-closed Columbia Records studio in Nashville
      led to the label giving away a small audio gold mine.

      The studio had a policy allowing employees to cheaply purchase reels of tape "not used in the
      production of specific albums." An employee at the studio thought he'd gotten a good deal on a lot of
      what he thought was simply bulk used tape--2,200 reels, to be precise.

      Ownership of the stash has passed through several hands. Amid the detritus on the tapes, according to
      the current owners, are unreleased studio and live masters, alternate takes and safety masters by icons
      such as Louis Armstrong, Buddy Holly, Frank Sinatra, Hank Williams, Sr., Johnny Cash, Elvis Presley, Patsy
      Cline, Tony Bennett, Bob Dylan and several dozen other well-known artists...
      Zuletzt geändert von Graves_bei_Nacht; 01.03.2018, 14:08

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      • burroughs
        Board-Legende

        • 09.02.2004
        • 56243

        #153
        Zitat von Chief Joseph
        Stellt Euch mal vor, wir hätten die mehr als 30 Takes von "Hound Dog".
        au ja. stellt euch mal vor, wir kämen drauf dass es 26 FS, 2 halbe Takes und den Master gäbe

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        • ich
          Posting-Legende

          • 08.11.2003
          • 5466

          #154
          Reicht mir gefällt der Song eh nicht sonderlich

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          • burroughs
            Board-Legende

            • 09.02.2004
            • 56243

            #155
            Zitat von Graves_bei_Nacht
            Wohl eher .. und zudem rückwärts laufend.
            satanische botschaften versteckend?

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            • Graves_bei_Nacht
              Gehört zum Inventar

              • 04.11.2014
              • 3877

              #156
              Zitat von burroughs
              satanische botschaften versteckend?
              Eher eine -technisch betrachtet- normale Angelegenheit.

              Man bespielt zunächst zwei (der beispielsweise vier) Spuren und lässt das Band an dessem Ende dann nicht zum Ursprungsreel zurück laufen, sondern dreht es nur und lässt es somit bei gleichzeitiger Aufnahme wieder zurück auf die Anfangsrolle. So hat man zwei Aufnahmen, welche zueinander entgegengesetzt laufen.

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              • ROSI_
                Gehört zum Inventar

                • 15.11.2010
                • 1798

                #157
                Zitat von ich
                Reicht mir gefällt der Song eh nicht sonderlich



                Du hast wohl vergessen die lachenden Smileys dahinter zu machen.

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                • ROSI_
                  Gehört zum Inventar

                  • 15.11.2010
                  • 1798

                  #158
                  Besonders bei Dont be Cruel oder songs wie Long tall Sally hätte ich mich für die Sessions interessiert.

                  Vllt kommt in den nächsten Jahren ja noch ein Wunder und man findet davon noch was.

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